Can all members stop attacking the organisation and it's leader. There is no proof to back the claim, I think someone is trying to throw dirt on the young pir. If you can provide proof fine if you can't then I will lock the thread.

Assalamu 'alaykum wa rahmatullah...

As a Kanz ul Huda member (sister) I feel we should clarify some of the points raised above;

1) Yes, there was a camcorder on a stand (as you walked in, to your right) - not hidden underneath any cloth, all who attended could very clearly see this. What was just before the stage was a projector placed on a cardboard box covered with a green cloth (if we're going to be specific).
Any sisters that had an issue with this approached some of our main sisters and it was made clear to them that the recording was for Pir Sahib's grandmother to watch as we didn't think they would be able to stay for the whole gathering, and it was zoomed out, not focused at any sister apart from the amazing YOUNG (not yet baaligh) naat khawans masha Allah and Pir Sahib's grandmother. This satisfied the sisters and who then sat back down.

2) A mistake on our behalf - accepted; we should have announced the mehfil was being recorded and the reason why, so that sisters who weren't still happy with this could sit behind the camcorder or keep their nikaabs on. Please accept our sincere apologies and trust that no brothers will be viewing these recordings insha Allah - Pir Sahib haven't even seen these recordings and don't plan on it. (Sorry 'JATT' - no SHEEP attended our gathering.)

3) There weren't many Dawat-e-Islami sisters who attended apart from a couple, so why create fitnah between two beautiful organisations in the path of Allah?

4) Pir Sahib love and respect Allamah Sa'eedi Sahib very much and have studied under their blessed company as under the company of a few scholars in Syria, including Shaykh Samir an-Nass. (You claim to be 'JATT' but does everyone know you wherever you're from? - Allahu wa Rasooluhu A'lam).

5) Allamah Mufti Pir Muhammad Manzoor Ahmed Faizi alayhi rehmah... - are Pir Sahib only allowed to have ijazah from them if they speak against the Shia? I invite you to sit with Pir Sahib and learn about our Pir Faizi Kareem AR. If not Pir Sahib, the brothers who travel on Kafilah's with Pir Sahib from their hometown through Data Darbar, PakPattan Sharif and many others to Bahawalpur, Ahmedpur Sharkiya Sharif and spend their time under the blessed company of the Ahl-ul-Bayt of Pir Faidhi Kareem AR. You won't be provided 'written evidence' for this - if you are sincere and really seek something out of it, I suggest you open your heart and allow the 'Faidh' to come trough to you via Pir Sahib - you'll only get any 'evidence' that way.


Insha Allah this has cleared some misconceptions. Allah is All-Hearing, All-Seeing, All-Knowing.

Ma'assalaama

Greatly appreciate the clarification. The sister on Yahoo Groups might have been an ex-student or just someone trying to cause trouble. Allah guide them.

I stand by what I wrote. Anyone want to check up on what I wrote please go down to the F R Institute and confirm with Allama Saeedi himself.

Sheikh Faizi Karim Allah's mercy be upon him was the king of debaters of his time. All the Shia and Tafzilis feared him.

Pir Saqib Saab attacks wahhabis - even finds time to speak against freemasons - but he doesn't say a word against the Shia? Why? This is a valid question and needs to be answered.

There is no doubt that Saqib Shami has fallen out with Kotli Pir Zahid and even lied about many things. This can be confirmed with Pir Zahid's own murids. He also tried using some of them as thugs against Ulama.

He is a nortorious liar as i have heard fro some scholars and they have told us not to trust his lies....