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Ahl al Hadeeth view on the debate/debators

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Ahl al Hadeeth view on the debate/debators # 346
by  sunnisword  /  9 Months ago
Asalaam Wa Alaikum

I stumbled across the following link in their forum.

www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=7108

read what filth is coming out.
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Re:Ahl al Hadeeth view on the debate/debators # 349
by  shibli  /  9 Months ago
wahabis seem to be scared. when is the next one happening>?
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Re:Ahl al Hadeeth view on the debate/debators # 353
by  Abu Hafsah  /  9 Months ago
Its easier for them like al-borqi, rizwan and their likes on the Ahlal khaabes website to puff up like lions and accuse us of being jahmites and mushriks, but when it comes to debate face to face, thats when reality hits them.

They claim that those that dimishqiya debated were not the real Asharis and are really jahmiya, the school of the Ashariyya died out when Imam Fakhrudin ar-Razi came on the scene??

One of them claimed that the video had poor sound quality
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Re:Ahl al Hadeeth view on the debate/debators # 355
by  mqadri  /  9 Months ago
Alamdulillah reading their thread brought a very big smile on my face, and gave me a lot of happiness, knowing our Sunnis brothers have done a very good job!
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Re:Ahl al Hadeeth view on the debate/debators # 356
by  abu al-mahasin  /  9 Months ago
Here is another link they have on it: www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?p=42835

They are now looking for the Tawassul one

The conclusion of discussion for these guys was so petty, all they did was cry about how the Sufis demonstrated no Adab. This is usually something which comes from the mouth of a person who is arrogant and cannot digest an opposing opinion. Instead of responding to it, he claims that the opposition has no manners.

They claim the Sunnis using piles of books (i.e. references) was rude? I say that Dimashqiyya having the use of a machine (like his laptop) during a verbal debate was rude and demonstrated his lack of ability...and he STILL lost.
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Re:Ahl al Hadeeth view on the debate/debators # 357
by  Abu Hafsah  /  9 Months ago
Thy are complaining that the brothers had books infront of them and this shows bad adab

Now there looking foward for the Tawassul debate, dimishqiya's done a runner, it was expected on the 17th October, its 2nd Nov now.
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Re:Ahl al Hadeeth view on the debate/debators # 374
by  don.daddy  /  9 Months ago
Maybe the brothers on the Ahl al-Hadith website don't know but Damishqiyyah was debating a Matarudi because Sidi Muhammad Yasin clearly states that he is a Hanafi Matarudi, i'm not to sure about Sidi Asrar Rashid though. I think the brothers should be told to register with this website and watch the full debate themselves, and find out what a bafoon this Damishqiyyah really is
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Re:Ahl al Hadeeth view on the debate/debators # 375
by  don.daddy  /  9 Months ago
oops my bad they already have a person whos registered on here and he's giving his username and password to everyone. They are posting comments on the debate. www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=7133
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Re:Ahl al Hadeeth view on the debate/debators # 376
by  abu al-mahasin  /  9 Months ago
The funniest thing that they are now spreading lies that the debate was 8 hours long. I suggest they contact Dimashqiyya and get that verified, also the organiser from al-Maghrib and see what he has to say.

They are suggesting Kamran for a debate, a guy who has lost debates against sunnis for a number of years. For Kamran, we should as for a debate on the Sifat, he can't debate Tawassul and it will be a waste of time for everyone.

All Kamran does is switch the topic. He can't do anything else. You talk to him about Tawassul and he starts quoting Imam Ahmad Rida and misquoting him. The guy is all over the place, its like talking to a child.
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Re:Ahl al Hadeeth view on the debate/debators # 382
by  abu al-mahasin  /  9 Months ago
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Hajr al-'Asqalani on Bid'ah:


قوله‏:‏ ‏(‏قال عمر نعم البدعة‏)‏ في بعض الروايات ‏"‏ نعمت البدعة ‏"‏ بزيادة تاء، والبدعة أصلها ما أحدث على غير مثال سابق، وتطلق في الشرع في مقابل السنة فتكون مذمومة، والتحقيق أنها إن كانت مما تندرج تحت مستحسن في الشرع فهي حسنة وإن كان مما تندرج تحت مستقبح في الشرع فهي مستقبحة وإلا فهي من قسم المباح وقد تنقسم إلى الأحكام الخمسة‏.‏



www.al-eman.com/hadeeth/viewchp.asp?BID=12&CID=192#s2

His saying: ('Umar said: What a beautiful Bid'ah), in some narrations "Ni'mat al-Bida" with the addition of al-Taa'. Bid'a, its basis is what is innovated not on a previous example, is used in the absolute sense in the Shari'a as opposing the Sunnah, therefore would be reprehensible.

Under investigation, if it falls under commendable in the Shari'ah, then it is good and if it falls under dislikeable in the Shari'ah, then it is bad, otherwise it is from the category of Permissible and it splits in to the Five Legal categories.
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