I personally think Dimashqiyya was simply unqualified to debate. He didn't have what it takes to stand against sh yasin.

Salam

I agree. The Salafi Sheikh came with arguments that weren't even relevant to the actual topic (the definition of bida').

I was impressed with the Sunni Sheikhs Masha'Allah. Especially in their Brummy accent. May Allah SWT preserve them. Could someone put up the picture of their Sheikh/teacher (if possible). Jazak'Allah Khair.

Also I liked how there was Naat Paak being recited in another part of the mosque just before the debate started off. Also the Zikr mehfil during the debate.

Salam

A debate was mentioned for the 17th of October. Whatever happened to that?

MashaAllah this was a very good debate indeed, and all the Ahle Sunnah scholars who very honourably represented the Ahle sunnah position deserve a lot of credit may Allah Almighty bless every single one of them especially Shaykh Yasin, via the wasila of his beloved Prophet may salaam be upon him.

I found Damashaqi to be a very very weak debater; I also strongly doubt he will be debating again. Here are a few of his mistakes I came across bearing in mind most of these are irrelevant to the topic he shouldn’t have been mentioning them anyway, but these are common things the so called salafies / wahabies use to mislead innocent sunnies

1. he said Christians celebrate birthdays

Is this mentioned in any Ayah or Hadith? After all we follow Quran and Hadith, in which Ayah or Hadith does it say the Christians celebrate birthdays? Just because Christians celebrate it today, this doesn’t mean they always have, there is a very strong chance, also I have complied some proofs which suggests the Muslims started celebrating birthdays and the Christians followed

2. He said we don’t allow the Christians to celebrate birthdays yet we do celebrate birthdays ourselves why is this?

Who doesn’t allow the Christian to celebrate birthdays? We follow Quran and Hadith, in which Ayah or hadith does it state the Christian where forbidden from celebrating birthdays? What we dont allow are celebration in a haram manner, for example celebrating by getting drunk and this we also don’t allow for ourselves.

3. He asked a question if the Holy Prophet may salaam be upon him knew about celebrating birthdays and if he did why didn’t he declare it permissible

I have a counter question

Did Allah Know about birthdays? If so why didn’t he declare them a bidda as the wahbies claim they are. Also Damashaqi during the answer and question session, paid a huge emphasis on how we should not explore and ask questions about what the Holy Prophet may salaam be upon him remained silent about, then why is he asking this question?

4. He was promoting the idea that to touch the grave's of the Prophets may salaam be upon him is an act of the Christians and Jews

The Jews only believe in the Prophet Musa may salaam be upon him and no Jews past or present knew or knows where the grave of Prophet Musa may salaam be upon him is so how could they have touched it?

The Christians only believe in the Prophet Isa may salaam be upon him and Prophet Isa may salaam be upon him doesn’t have a grave so how could the Christians ever have touched it?

5. Damashaqi was repeatedly asked for the ruling on one who believes bidda is two types yet he never answered why not? Was it that hard a question?


6. Damashaqi at one point asked what guarantee do you have the biddas you practise are approved by Allah Almighty or not?

So they are some biddas which are approved by Allah Almighty according to Damashaqi himself!

7. Damashaqi was asked about the books of Jarh and tadeel and if he believed these were bidda He replied that during the time of the Holy Prophet may salaam be upon him, hadiths were written down, well there is a huge difference between hadiths being written down and books of Jarh tadeel being compiled the two are aboutdifferent topics altogther

8.Damashaqi said that the hadith of umar RadiAllah Anhu saying 'what a good bidda' refers to form of worship and not the actual then which ‘bidda’ is it that we do that doesn’t have actual which is good?

9. Damashaqi said mentioning of making the Quran small (fontwise) has nothing to do with the topic.

Whereas how many things did he mentioned that aren’t anything to do with the topic. This (about making the Quran small) was just said as an example that just as its possible that the scholars differ if something is permissible or not they may also differ in what type of bidda a certain act may fall under.

10. During the debate he admits that his definition yesterday was from his own pocket! So much for the 'Salafis' just following Quran and Hadith, and what else have the wahabies invented from their own pockets?

These are just some of the mistakes of Damashaqi that I spotted, some of these were picked up in the debate but some not. All these prove what I said above

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I found Damashaqi to be a very very weak debater; I also strongly doubt he will be debating again.

Very interesting debate, does anyone want to share part one of the debate?

Did you find the wahabi sheikh somewhere in the backstreet, I could've held a better defence for the wahabis then that guy lol shamooooooooooone.

Assalâmu 'Alaykum,

Will SunniTalk release also part 1 of this debate ? And the debate of Tawassul which was promised by both sides to be held at 17th October ?

In the clip it states also that if you contact SunniTalk they will provide you in DVD part 1. How can I contact SunniTalk ?

BarakAllâhu fîkum

MashaAllah!!

1) the day i never checked the site for the debate, it was uploaded, lol....shuld hav told me earlier u was waiting for me not to check, wuldnt hav checkd on the 1st day lol

2)i agree the wahabi debater was jus a rubbish debeater or Sidi Yasin was jus destroyin him left right n center!!

3) I like to thank SunniTalk team for providing us with the debate!

4) i think we missed a couple of minutes wen the tapes changed but tht was ok

5) can we get part1??

6) Did debate happen on 17/10? if so, will it be kumin on SunniTalk? [if u do plan to, i rather you keep it quite or else ull get a headache like u did for this 1 :)

7) Sidi Yasin shamed it wiv the debate!! the way he explained the points very gd n clear MashaAllah n Sidi Asraar smashed it with the Q/A :)

Question?? What is the ruling on the person who believers the Prophets can commit mistakes n sin?

JazakAllah


Wasalaam

The Wahabi is a renowned debater: here is what they say of him:

Sheikh 'Abdur Rahman Dimashqiah
I is one of the most renowned scholars of Ahlus Sunnah residing in the West. He specialises in the fields of 'Aqeedah (Islamic Theology and Belief) and Deviant Sects. Firm upon the Qur'an and Sunnah, he is a graduate from Imam Muhammad ibn Sa'ud University in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia where he attained his Bachelors Degree in Islamic Studies. He also has a Masters Degree in Islamic Studies from Al-Wifaq University in Pakistan and a PhD in Islamic Studies from the American Open University. He has published many books and is well known for his lectures and his speciality of debates. His works include

www.qfawz.com/TJOD.html

The mans official site:

www.dimashqiah.com/

Shaykh G F Haddad mentions him in Albani and His Friends.

Excellent debate, damishqiyyah was no challenge for Shaykh Yaseen, all the wahabi/salafis in the UK beware because this lions gonna get ya grrrrr!! . Allamah Saeedi Sahib taught these boys well, Mashallah may Allah (swt) reward them all. Ameen.